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“All Are Welcome”? ECCA Pres. Expels Govt Officials & Citizens from Meeting Without Reason

On the notice board in the foyer of the Third Baptist Church at the corner of 5th & Q, it says "All Are Welcome." This church hosts meetings of the ECCA which is definitely not welcoming to all.

At the October ECCA meeting, the ECCA board derided a local resident for being a homosexual. After that meeting Leroy Thorpe, the president of the ECCA, said that this same local resident would be barred from future ECCA meetings. That resident, subsequently, spoke with several MPD and other government officials and was told that such a bar was not enforceable or legal.

When this resident showed up for the ECCA meeting this evening with a neighbor, Mr. Thorpe brusquely instructed both of them to leave. The two police officers initially present at the meeting escorted the two residents, who live on the same block where the meetings are held, out of the meeting without conflict or fuss.

After a half hour or so, Sergeant D. Bracey and Sergeant M. Jackson arrived on the scene responding to the first two officers' repeated calls for assistance. Sgt Bracey was quite emphatic about the fact that Mr. Thorpe had no authority to bar these citizens people from such a meeting, she was overheard making a fews calls to speak with her superiors at the MPD to keep them abreast of the situation and confirm procedure. Then, all four police officers escorted the two local residents back into the meeting.

At this point Mr. Thorpe walked to the foyer where he loudly started an arguement with the police. Meanwhile, Armond Spikell from Roadside development was speaking about the O Street Market development, and struggling to be heard over Mr. Thorpe's yelling which was filtering through the door. Next, Mr. Thorpe left his own meeting to hustle home and grab a copy of this complaint letter, presumably to vindicate himself. When he came back and the police clarified that the complaint didn't bar any citizen — or MPD officers, for that matter — from a civic association meeting, he had another temper tantrum in the church foyer.

ECCA fiasco Nov 5
One of the Third Baptist Church trustees (left) attempts to calm Mr Thorpe down during a heated exchange with an MPD officer (right).

After collecting himself, Mr. Thorpe reentered the meeting, clearly defeated, silently (but fuming), and then announced that the public part of the meeting was over and demanded that all government officials including a representative from the Mayor's office, MPD, and nonmembers leave the meeting. Oddly, at least one favored nonmember was allowed to stay, though, according to the ECCA bylaws, she cannot be a member since she to lives outside the boundaries of the ECCA. Aren't double standards great? Once again, after several vehement requests, Sgt. Bracey demanded to re-enter the building, but as she and the ejected citizens re-entered the meeting, Mr. Thorpe gavelled the meeting to a chaotic close.

Why is he so fearful of dissenting voices? Maybe he does not want any discussion of the ECCA computer scandal in the meeting.

Second Northwest Coop Tenants Assoc. President, Ann Hil, and Earline Matthews, another member of the board of Second Northwest Coop, took the badge numbers of all the MPD officials; there were threats of going to the Third District headquaters to file PD99 complaints against the officers. And if that weren't enough, before the entire fiasco ended, Earline Matthews, threatened one of the individuals ejected from the meeting — who was attempting to video record the incident with his handy point and shoot camera — saying, "I'm gonna get my sons to beat the hell out of you!" At this point, all of the MPD officers present surrounded Ms Matthews, informed her of the illegality of making such a public threat, and detained her on the street until she came to her senses. The recipient of that threat, at this point, apparently has no intention of filing the appropriate misdemeanor charges against Ms Matthews in hopes of de-escalating the entire problem and sparing her and her sons from any conflict with the justice system.

07:33:34 am .  11/06/07.  cwalker EmailTrouble Log . 33 comments

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Comment from: mahdi m [Member] Email
"Our freedom of speech is freedom or death
We got to fight the powers that be"

... or something along those lines
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 07:53
Comment from: Shaw Rez [Visitor] Email · http://www.renewshaw.com
Outrageous, but typical. It's sad that people apparently blindly support Leroy under his hate and fear mongering spell.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 09:47
Comment from: Gee [Visitor]
Given recent events, I'm actually encouraged to see the MPD doing its job, even when Le Roi de Shaw would have them do the opposite.

Bravo, officers.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 11:19
Comment from: RC [Visitor] Email
his·tri·on·ics(hĭs'trç-ŏn'ĭks)
n.
Exaggerated emotional behavior calculated for effect.

When will someone in a position of influence (Jack???) say "Enough already!"???

What an unbelievable waste of those officer's time, and what a tragedy for the neighborhood that this person continues to exert influence over anyone...let alone gov't officials..

And where the f are those computers???

PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 11:19
Comment from: ML [Visitor] Email
While typically I don't care what happens at ECCA meetings because it is a non-representative group that holds unhealthy meetings, adheres to no bylaws, and makes no noticeable difference in Shaw, this boils my blood.

It is outrageous and unacceptable that our police force is pulled away from the important work of keeping our streets safe in order to deal with Thorpe's pettiness.

Thorpe, you're wasting our precious tax dollars, time and police resources because you can't deal with opposition, nor conduct a civil public meeting. Thanks to you Shaw was a more dangerous place last night. Stop it now.

Sergeants Bracey and Jackson should be commended for upholding the law. If there are any PD99's filed in response to this, I hope you post about it here. I also hopes the community 'shouts them down' to make it clear that we support our officers upholding the law and enforcing public meetings to actually be public.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 11:37
Comment from: volvolution1 [Visitor]
What's tragic is that the MPD now has a severe case of vertigo: Leroy derides them as useless, calls for their assistance in clearing hostile individuals from supposedly public forums, has constituents who threaten PD99s left/right, files reports to remove persons from his property, yet courts them by inviting as speakers to his meetings.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 12:15
Comment from: offseventh [Member] Email
So instead of dealing with the drug dealer on my neighbor's front stoop or the crackheads that litter 7th Street and love the Marion Street Flats...the police have to deal with this? I see a nice little letter to Jack coming out of me today...
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 13:25
Comment from: Jonah D. [Visitor] Email
There should be a civil rights demonstration at the next ECCA meeting. Where Jack Evans should be leading the protest against this local dictator. Where are the so called leaders and elders of Shaw? The old time leaders of this community? Like Jack they sit and say nothing, Jack Evans is part of the problem and should be voted out of office. This lack of respect for civil rights is a disgrace for Shaw.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 13:34
Comment from: jimbo [Visitor] Email · http://www.jimbo.info/weblog
Like Bush, Thorpe is using homos as a smokescreen to conceal his bigger problems. Nice tactic. He's a master politician and a vile pig.

When's the next meeting? I'd like to invite all my friends.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 13:35
Comment from: Si Kailian [Visitor] Email · http://www.mountvernonsquare.org
This bull$hit is exactly why we lose our good cops, The politics, the bogus PD-99s. We lost Lt. Smith. Officer Earl Brown just got his transfer (leaving a BIG adopt-a-block void at 5th & O). MPO Tommy Barnes is trying to leave MPD...

Agree with ML. Leroy Thorpe needs to stop it.

PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 13:40
Comment from: dorrell proctor [Member] Email
Brothers and Sisters:

Do not allow Satan for you to become victims of his organized terrorism.
Evil is losing the battle and will lose this War. Stay strong against the negative spirits of the Devil.

In the name of Jesus,

Dorrell Proctor
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 13:55
Comment from: richard [Visitor] Email
King Baby control freaks get all out of hand when it doesn't go their way
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 14:07
Comment from: mahdi m [Member] Email
Apparently, this was in fact a smokescreen to officially close the meeting so that he could privately ask for amenitiies for the ECCA from O Street Mrkt Developer Armond Spikell who was the only special guest at the meeting aside from members of the COPE/TASK teams.

When different groups try to lobby developers for amenities, that shoud ideally (though not necessarily) serve the general public, these conversations should be more open. We don't need more treeboxes with Leroy's name on them. And let's not give Leroy and his friends any more computers, please.

Next meeting should be Monday, Dec. 3, 7pm.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 14:13
Comment from: Si Kailian [Visitor] Email · http://www.mountvernonsquare.org
Roadside should be funnelling their community money to some sort of substitute for having NO GIANT for 2 years. we have a lot of seniors in Shaw who will need assistance in getting their groceries.

Leroy & his friends already have 18 computers.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 14:52
Comment from: richard [Visitor] Email
ECCA has 18 computers?
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 15:34
Comment from: Si Kailian [Visitor] Email · http://www.mountvernonsquare.org
no, leroy & friends:

http://mountvernonsquare.org/letters/ANC2C_COMPLAINT.pdf

page 3

10 printers too.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 17:06
Comment from: Si Kailian [Visitor] Email · http://www.mountvernonsquare.org
I'm sorry, i didnt include the 2 that were voted in at the dec 2006 meeting. that makes TWENTY.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 17:11
Comment from: David Smith [Visitor] Email · http://fifthandoh.blogspot.com
Let's not forget that Leroy Thorpe has no authority to preside over an ECCA meeting, let alone bar anyone from attending one, because he was never legitimately elected president of that organization. The "election" last December, in which he usurped the position from Mrs. Newell, was a total sham and a blatant hijacking. At the time, I was a dues-paying member, but will not have anything further to do with the ECCA, since at this point it is nothing more than a self-promotion vehicle for Leroy Thorpe.

It is nauseating that our public officials such as Jack Evans, MPD Chief Lanier and others continue to suck up to him.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/07 @ 20:43
Comment from: dorothy b carracedo [Visitor] Email
I totally agree, what is wrong with these people? Oh I know they are ignorant people being led by ignorance. Let’s get rid of the devil, his term is over soon. Dottie
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 10:42
Comment from: Joseph [Visitor] Email
11/5/07 ECCA meeting; I sat,I watched,
I heard,I agree that a public meeting is a public meeting; and many concerned members of the community it represents should be there: after reading the agenda we were informed that two (2) members of the board were not able to attend and we began with an update by Armond Spikel, Roadside Developement,on the status of the "O street project"; at the "Q&A" point the fireworks began with the announcement about a "Bar notice" when Mr.M.Moulton and friend entered. This was the first time I ever heard of this "action" in a public meeting. Their are some big exaggeration in some of the accounts of what happened next but many are true; all individuals were loud, the meetings Q&A was informative and not disrupted by the argument, Moulton was just as loud as Thorpe and his friend, MPD was trying to calm the situation, M.Bjore,from the Mayors office was present but left when Thorpe stated that the meeting was closed. Later, on the outside, more conversation and raised voices especially when Moulton was observed taking a picture or two and Ms.Matthews responded by saying that she did not want her photo taken and yes, Ms.Hill did ask for the officers names and badge numbers as the right of all citizens.In the heat of any argument many things are said and that,apparently,occurred causing an apparent overreaction because,in my opinion,a lot of people that night were behaving rather childishly. Washington is growing and changing and because of that many people seem to believe they're going to be left out or some are trying to claim more than their share,WE NEED TO WORK TOGTHER OR WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IT ALL; and whoever takes over will not care for anything WE have tried to accompolish and that is a fact of life.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 13:34
Comment from: mahdi m [Member] Email
Mahdi Thorpe also took some pictures with his digital camera (was that an ECCA-cum-ANC2C grant camera or a peronal one?), but nobody lost their heads. Quite the contrary, we just smiled and raised the peace sign. I hope he sends me some copies.

Mahdi Thorpe has repeatedly been invited to work with the elected ANC2C2 Commissioner, but he has consistently resisted such cooperation. Eighteen + years of service as a publicly elected figure hasn't made him a better public servant. Indeed, he seems to be in rapid decline in many respects.

Sometimes old school isn't better; it's just old.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 14:05
Comment from: richard [Visitor] Email
why did you leave out the bigoted slur about a citizens sexual orientation? did you forget about that? you had better believe sir that if my civil rights are being violated i will be loud. bullys should be spoken to with the same tone of anger they deliver. there should be a police officer at every ECCA meeting.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 14:19
Comment from: Anon [Visitor] Email
I read the ECCA bylaws and they cannot bar residents from their meetings. If they want to become a private club then that is their right. Otherwise, they need to start obeying their own bylaws. And I'm not sure that I would stay calm if I was getting kicked out of a meeting because I disagreed with the chair.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 14:47
Comment from: JB (aka) junior [Visitor] Email
Cooler heads must prevail. The person I feel for is Kevin Chapple.At least he has shown resolve, at least in the public. The people in his camp are sometimes viscous in their posts on this website. Leroy is wrong for calling out gay people, no doubt, but when he reads the venom of being called an A$$hole, and other negative names,etc., he told me that he was going to come out swinging. Another joker (Ninja) out of ignorance made a comment about Leroy's beard and somebody set him straight why his beard is dyed, while he has cheese doodles stuck up in his nose and his eyes blackened out to avoid recognition. A little over a month ago, a young lady was photographing the front of his home. I asked why was she taking a picture of this particular house. She claimed that the plants were so beautiful and the contarst of the color of his house. Leroy's plants were about dead, so that lie did not work.I made mention that the real nice flowers and plants are in the 1500 block of 5th. Turns out the City Paper sent her and she admitted it to earn money for an article. Then we have a person over at that Whitman Condo called Doris Brooks a hag.This person showed by the way he/she wrote the comment does not know Doris Brooks. He/she went further to mock Doris as a Don King look-a-like. I responded to this person that it is ok to disagree on how Doris runs the ANC, but to call her a hag ? They better be glad that it was not my mother that was called that because I would find this jerk and go to war. Folks, this is getting real nasty. I am not defending any of the parties, however, a lot of stuff is being done unnecessarily. I am afraid tempers are going to get out of hand and somebody is going to get hurt. Even the younger folk in the neighborhood read these blogs and and they see that there is not much difference between Leroy and his enemies.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 16:04
Comment from: anon [Visitor] Email
I dunno, I expect more from a (formerly) long time elected official than I do from your average private citizen. The heads of organiztions should be responsible for carrying themselves in a manner that dignifies the various people they purport to represent. Individual jokers have to live with themselves at the end of the day, but I doubt they're looking for anyone's approval (or vote).

The MPD in this instance seems to have properly identified the real menaces in this situation. Look who's filing the PD99 complaints and ask why they are doing that. Do officers peacefully enforcing the law deserve to have complaints filed against them?
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 17:22
Comment from: cwalker [Member] Email
The police did a fantastic job at the ECCA meeting. I hope that people who were there and agree with me will do something positive and write commendations for them. Please do this to counter the malicious PD99's that we can expect from the usual suspects, who were seen slinking northwards up 5th Street after the meeting.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 21:04
Comment from: klc2c02 [Member] Email
From Ms Matthews:

From: ematthews@nacwcya.org
To: Jack Evans jackevans@dccouncil.us
Cc: [others]
Subject:
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 [5:55pm]

Dear Mr. Evans:

I was forwarded several e-mails today in reference to the ECCA meeting on Monday, October 5, 2007 in which I attended along with several other members of Second Northwest. None of these people, who are doing all the talking and sending e-mails to all their friends, attended this meeting.

Mr. Martin Moulton did attend the meeting and of course was his usual self, very disruptive, disrespectful, and acted like a complete idiot. He was escorted from the meeting by the officers who attend the meeting because of this of behavior. Mr. Moulton is putting lies out about Mr. Thorp and I don’t appreciate it at all. I don’t know what this man has against Mr. Thorp, but I am getting tired of it.

We can’t seem to have a good meeting without this man acting like a fool and this is why he was barred from coming to the ECCA meetings. I don’t know what he is trying to prove, but he is a complete a--. Mr. Thorp was voted as president for the ECCA and if he doesn’t like it then he needs to stop attending the meetings. He must like getting put out each month because he continues to come.

Several of the members including myself and Anne Hill have spoken to Mr. Thorp about exchanging words with this man and others and he has been doing extremely well in doing this.

Mr. Moulton today put lies out about me threatening him this is a lie. The Police Officers that were present at the time did not hear me nor did the other members who attend the meeting. I asked Mr. Moulton not to take my picture and he continued doing so, and of course I got angry.

This Brian Smith, did not attend the meeting, but seem to have a lot to say about the meeting. All of the people in the neighborhood he sents e-mails to are conspiring against Leroy Thorp. They have their little clicks and continue to keep lies going on all the time. They want us to act ugly and sometimes we have. Since I have been in the area, I have experience Mr. Thorp as being a community leader and like to do for the neighbors. Because he is not the person they want him to be they seem to think he is wrong, but he is a no nonsense person and will not change for no one.

The officers that was called to this meeting was called by Mr. Moulton not Mr. Thorp. So that is another lie. We usually have one officer at the meetings to give us a report about crime in Ward 2. This officer is usually the one who put this man out. The officers did say that Mr. Moulton has a problem.

Earline Matthews
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 22:34
Comment from: mahdi m [Member] Email
I guess Ms Matthews doesn't remember Mahdi M being escorted back into the meeting twice by the MPD. She obviously knows MT so well, she doesn't even know how to spell his name.
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 22:42
Comment from: cwalker [Member] Email
Well, I attended the ECCA meeting, and I am one of those people who have been sending emails to Jack Evans. I was standing right next to Mr. Moulton when Ms Matthews uttered the threat about having her sons beat up Mr. Moulton. I heard it very clearly. I would testify to that fact in a court of law.

PermalinkPermalink 11/07/07 @ 22:43
Comment from: mahdi m [Member] Email
Maybe I should file the complaint now to refresh her recollection of the evening, keep her in touch with reality, and for the record. I was going to stop by Third District HQs' to drop off some commendation letters tonight anyway.

I doubt anyone can file any sort of official criminal complaint against those ejected from the meeting. Maybe we should have the Church trustee come in to testify in the case and see how long the church wants to be embroiled in the ECCA problems. Maybe they will stop hosting ECCA meetings. Maybe the Mayor's office will have to get involved since two employees in the officer were ejected from the meeting along with all of the MPD officers.

Things may need to be stepped up a notch in order to make things better. Down with the ECCA. The revolution will not be televised.

PermalinkPermalink 11/08/07 @ 07:01
Comment from: klc2c02 [Member] Email
From Chief Cathy Lanier:

Subj:
Date: 11/8/2007 8:52:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: cathy.lanier@dc.gov
To: ematthews@nacwcya.org, JACKEVANS@DCCOUNCIL.US
CC: larry.mccoy@dc.gov, diane.groomes@dc.gov, WRAHIM@DCCOUNCIL.US, mlthorpe2c02@aol.com, Kevin@ANC2C02.com, Ahill@ifc.org, Adrian.Fenty@dc.gov, peter.newsham@dc.gov, diane.groomes@dc.gov, larry.mccoy@dc.gov




Dear Ms. Matthews:

Thank you for your email message about the meeting on Monday. Our
department has received a separate complaint about the events that
occurred that evening. This matter is under investigation by our
Internal Affairs Bureau. I am forwarding this message, and your follow
up message which is attached, to Assistant Chief Peter Newsham for
inclusion in that investigation.

Thank you for taking the time to write. Please continue to do so in the
future, for incidents both good and bad.

Sincerely,

Cathy L. Lanier
Chief of Police
PermalinkPermalink 11/08/07 @ 11:41
Comment from: anon [Visitor] Email
Having written the Chief of Police several times I have yet to rec. a response. I guess she only answers emails if they have to do with Leroy Thorpe.
PermalinkPermalink 11/08/07 @ 17:28
Comment from: JB [Visitor] Email
Hey Anon, then maybe you should not waste your time. Have not you realized that government officials do not get involved with petty neighborhood disputes ? In other words, have you made a campaign contribution lately ?
PermalinkPermalink 11/09/07 @ 13:13

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